White House Health Care Summit

5:30 pm Signing off
Thanks for taking the time to follow the health reform summit.  At CCF, we’re anxious to hear your reaction to the summit and what it means for the prospects of health reform and its impact on children and families. For a transcript of the health reform summit, visit Kaiser health news. Don’t forget to check out CCF’s fact sheet on President Obama’s health care proposal.

5:25 pm Health summit concludes
President Obama wrapped up the summit by saying there seemed to be broad areas where the two sides agreed but they had philosophical difference in approaches. The areas he mentioned were:

 

1) insurance market reforms (difference on how much or how little to regulate and whether or not to stop discrimination based on pre-existing conditions which hinges on requiring people to obtain coverage).

2) assisting small business owners and those trapped in the individual market (difference on whether or not risk pools would adequately serve people or whether they should be allowed to benefit from being in a larger pool such as an exchange which would bring down costs — he compared the economic advantage of being in a larger pool to the advantage Walmart has in negotiating prices with consumers compared to small independent stores.)
3) allowing interstate purchase of health care (differences in whether or not to allow them to “race to the bottom” as happened with credit card companies or whether to ensure a baseline of coverage and consumer protection).
4) medical malpractice reform (approaches varied and actual savings questionable).
5) broad areas outlined by Senator Coburn such as eliminating waste, cracking down on fraud, reducing medical errors, encouraging price transparency and improving prevention (which President Obama pointed out were all in his proposal).

President Obama noted that for the first time, more people are getting health care coverage from the government and that it isn’t due to actions by Congress or the Administration but due to the fact that employers are shedding health plans and people are losing coverage.  He said that now that the public option has been dropped, the debate is no longer about whether or not the bill represents a “takeover of the health care system” but revolves around “how much should we regulate the insurance industry”. He described his experiences talking to the parents of uninsured children with conditions such as diabetes and heart conditions and said “they don’t want us to wait”.  He implored opponents of the health reform bill to do some “soul-searching” and decide if they were willing to work to get a bill passed.

4:20 pm Medicaid’s role in health reform

 

The research on how people feel about Medicaid generally shows that they are very pleased to have it, and it has been a big boost to their families. According to a Kaiser Family Foundation study, fully 95% of low-income parents who know about Medicaid/CHIP think they are good programs. In addition, nearly 9 out of 10 with uninsured children say they would enroll them if it was a possibility, and the vast majority would be interested in enrolling along with their child.  So, we were a bit surprised to hear Representative Roskam (Ill.) say, “it isn’t working for anybody” and shouldn’t be used to cover more people because it is a “weak foundation.”

As with all kinds of insurance, there are some issues with Medicaid, including that it often doesn’t pay providers as much as other public programs (CHIP, Medicare). This is a solvable problem. The House bill addressed the issue by providing federal funding to bring reimbursement rates in Medicaid for primary care services up to Medicare levels.  (President Obama acknowledged the problem after Representative Roskam spoke, but, notably, did not include this improvement in his own proposal.)

Finally, we also were a bit surprised to hear President Obama say that very poor people already have coverage through Medicaid, which is superior to the options available to working families. In fact, Medicaid does not cover adults without children, even if they are living in deep poverty (unless they are lucky enough to live in the handful of states with special waivers to do so). And, in most states, parents are not eligible for Medicaid even if they are well below the poverty line. The situation is much better for children. Due to Medicaid expansions for children and the CHIP, children in poor and low-income working families generally can qualify for coverage. The result is that children are far less likely to be uninsured than their parents and other adults.

4:05 pm Barrosso argues for high deductible plans/HSAs
The sharp philosophical differences between the two parties on coverage issues are clearly on display in this final segment of the summit. Senator Barrosso, a surgeon from Wyoming, made a pitch for America providing the best health coverage in the world, citing a Premier of Canada recently deciding to come here for heart surgery. He argued that we could hold down health care costs if people had more information on health care costs and more incentive to be “prudent purchasers,” such as provided under high deductible plans or HSAs. President Obama pushed back, arguing that most uninsured people in the United States aren’t premiers or sultans and don’t have much money with which to fill gaps in their health care coverage.

3:50 pm Moving to the topic of coverage – President’s goal to cover 30 million uninsured 
They are getting close to wrapping up, and just reaching the topic of coverage. President Obama kicked off the discussion, framing it as: can America, the wealthiest nation on earth, do what every other advanced nation does – make sure that every American has health insurance coverage? Before turning over to Senator Barrasso (Wyo.), President Obama made a pitch for acknowledging the reality that you can’t “waive a magic wand” and cover all of these people without it costing some money.

3:25 pm Debate over paying for reform continues
Discussion continues on what health reform would mean for our budget deficits if health reform passes, with Democrats arguing it will help immensely and Republicans taking the opposite position. Some of the most intense debate is over the appropriateness of using cuts to Medicare Advantage to help pay for reform. From a child and family health perspective, this part of the discussion can seem pretty far removed from what matters to kids and families. But, the question of how to pay for health reform, including major expansions in coverage for low-income families, long has been the key reason why it is so hard to enact.

3:00 pm Discussion turns to impact of health care on deficit
Vice President Biden discusses the impact of rising health care costs on the deficit and how we can “bend the cost curve.” Representative Paul Ryan (Wisc.) agrees that it is right to frame the debate on high costs and health inflation. However, there is disagreement between the parties on whether the President’s bill would reduce deficit (as the CBO as determined).

2:40 pm President says families with insurance already spend up to $1,100 a year on uninsured people
President Obama argues that “independent economists” think families with insurance already spend $1,000 to $1,100 on the cost of providing care to uninsured people. He says that, for example, the uninsured kid with asthma in Senator Coburn’s example, might well get care, but that the ER bill would end up being being paid for by families with insurance. Citing this kind of cost-sharing as a reason why an individual mandate or “responsibility” is required, the President admits he’s argued against such mandates on the campaign trail and had to be brought “kicking and screaming” to the conclusion that they were necessary.

2:35 pm Even the son of a Rockefeller can be uninsured
Senator Rockefeller (W.Va.) describes how his son, who was old enough to buy insurance on his own, decided that he didn’t really need it. Instead, he chose to go without insurance, apparently on the theory that he wouldn’t get sick. Senator Rockefeller says that such cases are one reason why the country needs to mandate that people secure coverage (and also that he and his wife insisted that his son buy coverage the next day). To help address the problem that young people often think they don’t need coverage — and also that they often don’t yet make enough money to buy it — one of the reforms included in leading health reform bills is whether to give families the option to add young adults up to age 25 or 26 to their parents’ insurance plans.

1:33 pm Quotes to ponder while waiting for summit to reconvene

“You can always get cheaper coverage if it has higher copays, higher deductibles and limited coverage.” (President Obama after pointing out that is one thing to get insufficient coverage on a beat-up car but another thing if it’s health coverage for a child)

“How do we wring out waste, fraud, abuse and duplication from the system without interfering with the care that we want every person on Medicare, Medicaid and private insurance to receive?” (Sen. Schumer)

We need a patient-centered, market-based approach.” (Sen.Coburn)

“We are trying to give people choice and competition in the private sector but requiring the private sector to operate under a set of rules.” (Secretary Sebelius)

12:59 pm Break for lunch/House vote  

Morning session consisted of discusions on small business purchasing pools, minimum benefit packages, addressing fraud and abuse in Medicaid and Medicare, buying insurance across states, and insurance market reforms. After lunch will finish insurance reform then move to deficit impact and coverage issues.

11:00 am Senator Coburn says kids can get care through ER; better preventive care needed
Senator Tom Coburn (Okla.) addresses President’s remarks on taking his daughters to ER. The Senator believes that children, even if uninsured, can get the care they need for asthma and meningitis by going to the ER. He also suggests that even if they get care in the ER, we don’t do a good job preventing acute asthma episodes. On this point, a recent study shows that uninsured children with asthma face barriers to care. However, enrollment in CHIP markedly helps kids get better treatment for asthma and obtain better outcomes.

10:48 am Reid shares story of father with sick child denied coverage

Senate Majority Leader Reid (Nev.) speaks about a restaurant owner in Reno, Nevada whose child was born with a cleft pallet. The insurer denied coverage saying the newborn had a pre-existing condition. He had paid his premiums and thought he had health insurance but now he’s stuck with $90,000 in medical bills and his daughter needs additional medical attention.

10:40 am Pelosi touts CHIPRA as early advance for health reform
House Speaker Pelosi (Calif.) says CHIPRA was a running start on expanding access and moves us forward on addressing affordability, accessibility, and accountability.

10:30 am Alexander wants to take step-by-step approach; believes Medicaid unfunded mandate

Senator Lamar Alexander (Tenn.) opens the day to describe the Republican perspective. They believe that the goal should be to reduce health care costs and move step-by-step towards that goal. The bills that have passed the House and Senate are not the way to do it. The country is too big and too diverse for a comprehensive approach to work. With step-by-step as their preferred way to go, he offered suggestions such as medical malpractice reform and buying coverage across state lines as the best way to increase access is to reduce costs. Senator Alexander also describes Medicaid expansion as an “unfunded mandate,” as one of the problems they see in the legislation, comparing “dumping” low-income people into a Medicaid program where 50% of doctors don’t take patients to buying them a bus ticket for a line that only runs half the time.

For remainder of day, we will not post on what everyone says – but only highlight when issues affecting children and families comes up.

10:20 am President Obama asks what would happen if I didn’t have “reliable” health care coverage for my daughters?

In his opening remarks, President Obama ties the need for health reform to the struggling economy. He believes it’s critical to look at fundamental problems that are hurting families and businesses, as well as having a profound impact on budgets at both a national and state level. Health care is one of the biggest drags on our economy and one of the biggest hardships that families face. Every American, whether or not he/she has coverage, is affected and the problem is only getting worse.

President Obama describes health care from the perspective of a parent. He remembers well facing the scary situations in which Malia and Sasha became sick and needed immediate health care. He remembers sitting in the ER and thinking “what would  happen if I didn’t have “reliable” health care coverage.”

The President wants the summit to focus not just on the differences, but where Democrats and Republicans agree, because there is significant agreement. As the day looks at lowering costs, ensuring the market works, addressing the long-term deficits, and providing more coverage, he wants to start where there is agreement and then focus on how to bridge the gaps where there isn’t.

Thursday, February 24, 10:08 AM

The health reform summit is just underway. President Obama will open the meeting with a brief speech welcoming the attendees and will be followed by introductory remarks from a Republican and a Democratic member (chosen by their colleagues). The remainder of the day will be divided into four sections, focusing on controlling costs, insurance reforms, reducing the deficit, and expanding coverage and is expected to last from 10am to 4pm (with a break for lunch, of course!).

Wednesday, February 23, 2010

President Obama’s bipartisan meeting on health reform starts at 10am EST on Thursday, February 25, 2010. Watch it on CSPAN or from the White House live feed. CCF staff – Jocelyn Guyer, Martha Heberlein, Cathy Hope, and Dawn Horner – will post developments from the meeting related to child and family health care issues.

Also make sure to check out CCF’s fact sheet on President Obama’s health care proposal.

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